{"id":17371,"date":"2021-09-15T11:02:15","date_gmt":"2021-09-15T05:32:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/?p=17371"},"modified":"2021-09-15T11:02:16","modified_gmt":"2021-09-15T05:32:16","slug":"ppcchat-black-friday-prep-2021","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/ppcchat-black-friday-prep-2021\/","title":{"rendered":"PPCChat | Black Friday Prep 2021 | 14th September 2021"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"lead\">Welcome happy readers! This week&#8217;s PPCChat discussion was led by guest host <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/duanebrown\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Duane Brown<\/a>. He sought PPCers views on the preparation for Black Friday, are there any articles or blog posts that act as a guide to them, and more. Here is a screencap of the discussion.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:17px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-q1-i-love-black-friday-so-have-you-started-to-prepare-for-black-friday-q4-if-not-when-do-you-usually-start-to-prep-why-hasn-t-this-year-been-different-for-your-business\"><strong>Q1. I LOVE Black Friday&#8230; so Have you started to prepare for Black Friday\/Q4? If not, when do you usually start to prep? Why hasn&#8217;t this year been different for your business?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>For some of our programs, yes we have. It&#8217;s a bit weird this year due to supply chain issues. Can&#8217;t run all these programs if you can&#8217;t fulfill the orders. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I start <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/search?q=%23blackfriday\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">#blackfriday<\/a> prep in May because I&#8217;m crazy XD That said, most of the work is creative and high level strategy. Execution (especially on the ad platform side) has to wait till closer to the period as there might be changes to the mechanics that change plans. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Strategy conversations should happen earlier in order to prep creative, messaging, etc. In terms of campaign builds and budgets&#8230; maybe ~1-2 months in advance to give proper time to QA and set rules. This year, I could see this being a bigger undertaking. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/sonika_chandra\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@sonika_chandra<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Since we aren&#8217;t seeing as much in person shopping and cyber shopping\/shopping via ads may be more common. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/sonika_chandra\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@sonika_chandra<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The biggest prep items for me are: 1. Creative I want to run and setting expectations for them. 2. Scheduling out media buys and ensuring learning periods won&#8217;t get in the way. 3. Product\/service margin conversations to ensure brands don&#8217;t fall into the red. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We started to think about holidays and Black Friday in June-July. But no matter how early we start this conversation, clients often leave things to the last minute when it comes to creative, budget, etc. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Anna_Sorok\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Anna_Sorok<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Also, I like to complete shopping feed audits and gather all &#8220;wants\/needs&#8221; from a client before September so if we need to make any changes to our campaigns we have enough time before major sales. I try to stop all testing and campaigns updates by Sept-Oct. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Anna_Sorok\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Anna_Sorok<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We have already started to prep- getting some of the creative approved, looking at stock levels for our clients and competitors, and starting new testing rounds to be ready to scale. You have to have inventory to run ads on Amz so supply chain is key this year. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AMZRobynJohnson\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@AMZRobynJohnson<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes, we started back in July, with a theory that shopping season will start earlier this year like last year. <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JonKagan\" target=\"_blank\">@JonKagan<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-q2-for-those-who-may-need-some-inspiration-are-there-any-blog-posts-articles-guides-you-found-to-help-you-prep-for-black-friday\"><strong>Q2. For those who may need some inspiration&#8230; Are there any blog posts\/articles\/guides you found to help you prep for Black Friday?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:21px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Been seeing some stuff lately: BF Conf today (YES TODAY): <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/QAA9l59BHy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">blackfridaysummit.com\/tickets\/<\/a> CTC post <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/vdl1BwUqIA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">commonthreadco.com\/blogs\/coachs-c\u2026<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/duanebrown\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@duanebrown<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Big shout out to <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/sejournal\/\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">@sejournal<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/sengineland\/\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">@sengineland<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Optmyzr\/\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">@Optmyzr<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/PPCKirk\/\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">@PPCKirk<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/MilwaukeePPC\/\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">@MilwaukeePPC<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/michellemsem\/\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">@michellemsem<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ThinkwithGoogle\/\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">@ThinkwithGoogle<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/MSFTAdvertising\/\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">@MSFTAdvertising<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/jimbanks\/\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">@jimbanks<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/adzooma\/\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">@adzooma<\/a> (shameless plug), <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/SemrushAcademy\/\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">@SemrushAcademy<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/search?q=%23ppcchat\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">#ppcchat<\/a> resources <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/bwb26OfeoL\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">officialppcchat.com\/resources\/<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I would read\/watch everything <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AMZRobynJohnson\/\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">@AMZRobynJohnson<\/a> puts out if you&#8217;re doing anything with Amazon and <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ebkendo\/\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">@ebkendo<\/a> for hybrid online\/local retail initiatives. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The daily covid infection rate reports to remind me how much more people are doing stuff online rather than in person. <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JonKagan\" target=\"_blank\">@JonKagan<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-q3-anyone-seen-any-brands-launch-their-black-friday-deals-already-i-know-i-saw-some-black-friday-messaging-in-july-which-looks-cheesy-twitter-com-duanebrown-sta\"><strong>Q3. Anyone seen any brands launch their Black Friday deals already? I know I saw some &#8220;Black Friday&#8221; messaging in July which looks cheesy <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/a6WvgZbc5W\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">twitter.com\/duanebrown\/sta\u2026<\/a><\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>I wish I had some good answers for this &#8211; excited to see everyone else&#8217;s moments. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Thankfully no &#8211; if it launches in July, it&#8217;s not really a Black Friday deal is it? <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;ve seen some clients run a &#8220;soft&#8221; sale before actual BF but just a few days or 1-2 weeks ahead <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Anna_Sorok\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Anna_Sorok<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I think it&#8217;s smart to get in front of your customers and heavy-up on prospecting, upper-funnel efforts early. BF deals in July seem a bit early to me&#8230; You would have to run this sale for a few months and it&#8217;s not really a BF sale in this case. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Anna_Sorok\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Anna_Sorok<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-q4-have-you-seen-the-increased-media-coverage-of-supply-chain-and-postal-delivery-issues-cropping-up-since-q2-will-this-impact-your-business-and-in-what-ways\"><strong>Q4. Have you seen the increased media coverage of supply chain and postal delivery issues cropping up since Q2? Will this impact your business and in what ways?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>First &#8211; thank you for this question. Yes and yes &#8211; however this is also why I neurotically begin planning early so we can get campaigns set up to compensate (especially useful for the tangential services brands so they can position themselves as a BF enabler). <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The chip shortage was bad for brands who sell chip-enable devices. Now having another round of 2020 but what will likely be worse shipping delays. We have been trying to get clients to order stock sooner. Get messaging in market to shop sooner. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/duanebrown\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@duanebrown<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A lot of these delivery services need to pay better to attract and hire more people. We are 12+ months into shipping delays and it&#8217;s like they are still under water. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/duanebrown\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@duanebrown<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Parlaying the shipping risks into CRO efforts (shout out to <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/justunosocial\/\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">@justunosocial<\/a>) will help grease the sales wheels while also mitigating poor customer service experiences. So long as brands build in realistic shipping into the lp\/feed, all will be well. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes, it&#8217;s definitely something I&#8217;m worried about &#8211; it&#8217;s out of a lot of clients&#8217; control, so they&#8217;re going to want to sell x but they only have stock for x &#8211; y&#8230;. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-q5-have-you-been-or-thought-about-pitching-your-brand-to-let-you-test-a-new-ad-platform-for-q4-this-year-we-know-google-and-facebook-will-be-competitive-while-at-the-same-time-it-s-important-to-not-just-rely-on-those-2-channels-for-your-brand-s-growth\"><strong>Q5. Have you been or thought about pitching your brand to let you test a new ad platform for Q4 this year? We know Google and Facebook will be competitive&#8230; while at the same time it&#8217;s important to not just rely on those 2 channels for your brand&#8217;s growth<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>I am all about Tiktok right now. That said, there&#8217;re still gains to be had on the &#8220;conventional&#8221; platforms: 1. Youtube\/Display\/Discovery: cheaper clicks and lots of blitzing power 2. Microsoft Audience\/shopping: just do it &#8211; the market share argument is old. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pinterest, Quora, Twitter, and TikTok are all in play. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes! when I look at my target audience, Twitch is where it&#8217;s at! we definitely want to expand to other platforms, but streaming seems to be the main thing right now. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I would test Walmart and Target if they didn&#8217;t burn me hardcore on getting a PS5&#8230;. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Waze is secretly clutch platform for local folks &#8211; super cheap for value and the platform is actually not bad! I agree with Twitch, Quora, reddit mentions too! <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We are talking about diversification on Social. Tik Tok requires heavy investment so we are trying Snap and Pinterest. I am curious to hear what other platforms people are trying besides Google and MSFT ads. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Anna_Sorok\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Anna_Sorok<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>More and more clients are warming up to YouTube ads&#8230; I remember days when YT was always a &#8220;maybe&#8221; but really &#8220;never&#8221;<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Anna_Sorok\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Anna_Sorok<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I have, trying to expand reach beyond the same old Google and Bing duopoly <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JonKagan\" target=\"_blank\">@JonKagan<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-q6-i-know-we-do-paid-ads-but-do-you-help-your-brands-make-sure-there-is-a-consistent-tone-message-across-all-marketing-channels\"><strong>Q6. I know we do paid ads, but do you help your brands make sure there is a consistent tone\/message across all marketing channels?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Even before us hiring a Klaviyo person to the team this summer. We always wanted to make sure site, emails and paid ads were in sync as much as possible. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/duanebrown\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@duanebrown<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This might be part of why I&#8217;m crazy, but I consider it part of my job and part of the strategic guidance folks pay me for. If ads say one thing and the organic experience comes across in a different way, there will be too much cognitive dissonance and bouncing. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Additionally, if there are multiple vendors, it&#8217;s mission critical there&#8217;s a brand style\/tone guide so work comes across uniform. This is doubly important if you serve an international audience and will need to localize messaging (can apply nationally). <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PPCChat Participants<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Julia Vyse <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/li><li>Navah Hopkins <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/li><li>Sonika <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/sonika_chandra\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@sonika_chandra<\/a><\/li><li>Duane Brown <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/duanebrown\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@duanebrown<\/a><\/li><li>Anastasia Sorokina <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Anna_Sorok\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Anna_Sorok<\/a><\/li><li>Robyn Johnson <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AMZRobynJohnson\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@AMZRobynJohnson<\/a><\/li><li>Jon Kagan <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JonKagan\" target=\"_blank\">@JonKagan<\/a><\/li><li>Reva Minkoff <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Related Links<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/use-data-exclusion-google-ads\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">How &amp; When to Use Data Exclusion in Google Ads<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/using-amazon-product-variations-and-ppc-together-to-maximize-sales\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Using Amazon Product Variations And PPC Together To Maximize Sales<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/audit-your-amazon-ppc-account-karooya-tools\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">How To Audit Your Amazon PPC Account With Karooya\u2019s Tools<\/a><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Welcome happy readers! This week&#8217;s PPCChat discussion was led by guest host Duane Brown. He sought PPCers views on the preparation for Black Friday, are there any articles or blog posts that act as a guide to them, and more. 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