{"id":20560,"date":"2022-10-05T12:34:00","date_gmt":"2022-10-05T07:04:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/?p=20560"},"modified":"2022-10-05T00:36:01","modified_gmt":"2022-10-04T19:06:01","slug":"ppcchat-googles-search-on-22-announcements-for-ppc","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/ppcchat-googles-search-on-22-announcements-for-ppc\/","title":{"rendered":"PPCChat | Google&#8217;s Search On 22 Announcements &#038; What It Means for PPC | 4th October 2022"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"lead\">Greetings Happy Readers! Hosted by Julie F Bacchini, this week&#8217;s PPCChat session was based on the announcements at Google&#8217;s Search on 22 event last week and what this announcement means for PPC.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<p>Here are recaps of what was announced at Google&#8217;s Search On 22 event last week:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><a href=\"https:\/\/searchengineland.com\/google-search-on-22-recap-388296\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">10 biggest announcements from Google Search On 22<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/searchengineland.com\/google-just-announced-9-new-features-and-tools-for-shopping-388295\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">9 new Google search features and tools for shopping<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.google\/products\/shopping\/search-on-2022-shopping\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">9 new features and tools for easier shopping on Google<\/a><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-q1-what-was-your-overall-impression-of-or-reaction-to-the-things-that-were-announced-or-discussed-some-were-features-that-had-been-announced-previously-such-as-multisearch\"><strong>Q1: What was your overall impression of or reaction to the things that were announced or discussed (some were features that had been announced previously such as Multisearch)?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>It was shopping, shopping, shopping&#8230; which as a consumer is kind of interesting, but as a lead gen PPCer? A resigned par for the course, I guess? <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Seemed to be all shopping and core search announcements. Not much in the way of additional features for those not in e-commerce or SEO. Unless I missed something. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/John_A_Lee\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@John_A_Lee<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hi guys <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/search?q=%23PPCChat\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">#PPCChat<\/a>, felt the announcement was fine but can&#8217;t help but feel from an advertisers perspective that we just need more transparency! Everything seemed to be expected. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/PPC_Fraser\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@PPC_Fraser<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It was more interesting for me as a user rather than as an advertiser. Though, as an advertiser it may be interesting on how short videos on Google Search will help me increase my overall performance. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DianaAlinaAldea\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@DianaAlinaAldea<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Business Messages is interesting, but doesn&#8217;t seem to have a broad use-case (at least not yet). <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/John_A_Lee\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@John_A_Lee<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Maybe they think if they show product ads everywhere, we\u2019ll visit Amazon less? <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondcontent\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondcontent<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Seemed super heavy on shopping and organic search updates, which might not be as relevant\/impactful to a PPCer that&#8217;s mostly focused on B2B or lead gen. It was interesting (but not necessarily surprising) to hear the emphasis on multi-search again as well. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/adclarke10\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adclarke10<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For the most part, it looks like 1. Google is afraid of losing search traffic (particular shopping and gen z) 2. They want to keep everyone in the Google ecosystem and not send traffic to site as much as possible 3. Push blackbox (pmax and broad) to everyone. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/360vardi\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@360vardi<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How did I not even realize it was happening? Secondly, it really didn&#8217;t seem to have much impact on the paid side. Maybe I am just naive. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JonKagan\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JonKagan<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Q2: There was a huge emphasis on images and their role in search. What are your thoughts on this? Are there challenges for the brand(s) you\u2019re working with that you expect to face for a more image-focused search experience?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>More images in search has been the trend the last few years. Image Extensions, <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/MSFTAdvertising\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@MSFTAdvertising<\/a> &#8216;s multimedia ads, etc. Not surprising. Images get a user&#8217;s attention. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/John_A_Lee\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@John_A_Lee<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Images are great for products (and better for some kinds of products than others to be sure )&#8230; but what about services? Not everything can be encapsulated in an image? And not every brand has quality images available or the budget to get them. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Happily, there are not challenges for the brand I&#8217;m working with to face a more image-focused search experience. A challenge may be with the requirements for extra visuals. But I see this as a minor challenge, more prominent in the early stages. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DianaAlinaAldea\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@DianaAlinaAldea<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes it\u2019s overdue. As desktop numbers fall off a cliff in Ecom, and scrolling\/swiping is the default behavior, ugly text links are a legacy hangover. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondcontent\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondcontent<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I like it personally but id like to see more collaboration with image\/content services. Smaller brands rely on things like canva, so without highlighting these companies it can appear a bit gatekeepery (technical term!) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/PPC_Fraser\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@PPC_Fraser<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Do think dare I say it that Bing is actually leading the way here with multimedia ads! <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/PPC_Fraser\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@PPC_Fraser<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I feel like there could be a bigger push from Google reps to add image extensions and opt into Dynamic Image extensions. Automated\/dynamic extensions I&#8217;m not as keen on, but would also be interested to see if they add something else like video extensions. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/adclarke10\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adclarke10<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A challenge we run into with image extensions is getting disapproved for using logos or having text\/graphic overlays. So moving forward, we&#8217;ll probably need more general imagery from clients to ensure we have creative that gets fully approved. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/adclarke10\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adclarke10<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It&#8217;s all about taking away more real estate from free organic to squeeze more paid clicks. Images will work well for a lot of businesses, but B2B? I imagine the next step would be to incorporate some 30-second video reel in search. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/360vardi\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@360vardi<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes, huge emphasis on search. But a search that Google controls, not a consumer or advertiser. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JonKagan\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JonKagan<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Q3: The Google Search On 22 event was very retail and shopping centric in the features &amp; functionalities that were highlighted. What are your thoughts and reactions to this?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Maybe they thought it was timely with holiday shopping season upon us? Felt incomplete though. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/John_A_Lee\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@John_A_Lee<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Not at all surprising, but yes, a little bit upsetting. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DianaAlinaAldea\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@DianaAlinaAldea<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Not surprising &#8211; very little for B2B as always. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>That&#8217;s same old story for Google. they think their competition is Amazon and Tik Tok because they can&#8217;t imagine B2B will go anywhere else for research and ask questions. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/360vardi\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@360vardi<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As an FYI, wanted to share this blog post which has a look at some of the ads updates coming for Search, including Business Messages and more. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/BBbAVirFI8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">thinkwithgoogle.com\/marketing-stra\u2026<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/adsliaison\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adsliaison<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Retail because of the cusp of Q4. Google is gonna Google for $. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JonKagan\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JonKagan<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Q4: In addition to being shopping-focused, it seems like many of the announced functionalities are also heavily for mobile\u2026 What are your thoughts on this?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Isn&#8217;t this the &#8220;year of mobile&#8221;? <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/John_A_Lee\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@John_A_Lee<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This ties into the B2B discussion. B2B takes place on desktop more than ecomm does and there was zero mention of desktop whatsoever. It&#8217;s still super important for B2B and the omission was glaring. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A lot happens on mobile, but a lot also doesn&#8217;t. Again, it feels like such a massive blind spot? People don&#8217;t do their work on their mobile devices? They do work on computers and then do searches while on those same machines? <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Not something new. Most of the features Google released for a long time now are mobile-focused. They see the data, they know where most people spend their time. I think B2B is the last surviving member of desktop searches. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/360vardi\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@360vardi<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Kinda echoing what others have said \u2013&nbsp;mobile optimization is obviously important, but not every search happens on mobile, especially for B2B or lead gen. Ignoring the desktop seems like a missed opportunity. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/adclarke10\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adclarke10<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Also (maybe I&#8217;m trying to give them some benefit of the doubt here), I wonder if Google uses mobile as kind of a first testing ground before rolling new features out to the desktop. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/adclarke10\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adclarke10<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Remember when everyone thought Tablets were the wave of the future? <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JonKagan\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JonKagan<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Q5: Business Messages was also discussed &#8211; where searchers can initiate a text chat right from an ad. What are your thoughts on this feature? Read Google\u2019s resource on Business Messages here: <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/XQQifwRgmo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">businessmessages.google<\/a> <\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Business Messages feels like a flat-out copy of LI conversation ads. Which for us have had very limited success. The B2B space is too complex to take place over these types of chats. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The idea of being able to start a chat from an ad or a business listing is intriguing. I have to wonder about the feasibility for businesses to respond to them instantaneously. Younger users won&#8217;t call to ask a Q so you need a text system to reply? <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;ve used these for some car supplies and it was pretty good. This is pretty much a copy from LinkedIn and Facebook. It makes sense for Google. The end of the day, sending traffic to site means Google loses visibility and has gaps in tracking. They don&#8217;t want that. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/360vardi\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@360vardi<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In theory, I think it&#8217;s a good idea &amp; worth testing. In practice though, I&#8217;m not sure how many use cases there are for this in B2B or lead gen. I also don&#8217;t know if many businesses will be able to set it up &amp; monitor so that they actually respond to people quickly. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/adclarke10\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adclarke10<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This is actually an old extension that is being resurrected. On paper seems good, but was only ever good for customer service. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JonKagan\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JonKagan<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Q6: Is there something that you were hoping would be talked about that was not discussed at Search On 22?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Is <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/GoogleAds\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@GoogleAds<\/a> doing anything with CCTV beyond YouTube? What about innovations to display? New ad types or extensions? Vertical innovations? Etc., etc. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/John_A_Lee\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@John_A_Lee<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>My eternal hope for B2B was once again not realized&#8230; Maybe at next year&#8217;s Google Marketing Live (hey, a girl can dream!). <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Anything for B2B haha. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Would&#8217;ve been nice to get some features or updates that were more impactful for B2B, lead gen, or service companies, rather than almost exclusively focusing on ecomm\/shopping. But I wasn&#8217;t holding my breath for that lol. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/adclarke10\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adclarke10<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Why Pmax is so difficult to work with, and how they will make it more transparent. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JonKagan\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JonKagan<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PPCChat Participants<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Julie F Bacchini <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/li><li>John Lee <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/John_A_Lee\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@John_A_Lee<\/a><\/li><li>Fraser Andrews&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/PPC_Fraser\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@PPC_Fraser<\/a><\/li><li>Diana-Alina Aldea <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DianaAlinaAldea\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@DianaAlinaAldea<\/a><\/li><li>Andrew McGarry <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondcontent\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondcontent<\/a><\/li><li>Ashton Clarke&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/adclarke10\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adclarke10<\/a><\/li><li>Daniel Vardi <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/360vardi\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@360vardi<\/a><\/li><li>Jon Kagan <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JonKagan\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JonKagan<\/a><\/li><li>Melissa L Mackey <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a><\/li><li>AdsLiaison <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/adsliaison\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adsliaison<\/a><\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Related Links<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/q3-2022-roundup-top-ppc-news\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Quarterly Roundup | Top PPC News | Q3 2022<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/bulk-negative-keyword-addition-with-google-ads-editor\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Upload Negative Keywords in Bulk With Google Ads Editor<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/how-to-structure-amazon-ppc-campaign\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">How to Structure Amazon PPC Campaign<\/a><\/li><\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Greetings Happy Readers! Hosted by Julie F Bacchini, this week&#8217;s PPCChat session was based on the announcements at Google&#8217;s Search on 22 event last week and what this announcement means for PPC.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ub_ctt_via":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[18],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-20560","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ppc-chat"],"featured_image_src":null,"author_info":{"display_name":"Amita","author_link":"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/author\/amita\/"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/20560","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=20560"}],"version-history":[{"count":16,"href":"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/20560\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":20576,"href":"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/20560\/revisions\/20576"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=20560"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=20560"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=20560"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}