{"id":23784,"date":"2024-04-03T23:15:03","date_gmt":"2024-04-03T17:45:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/?p=23784"},"modified":"2024-04-03T23:15:04","modified_gmt":"2024-04-03T17:45:04","slug":"ppcchat-the-moving-goal-posts-of-google-ads-in-2024","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/ppcchat-the-moving-goal-posts-of-google-ads-in-2024\/","title":{"rendered":"PPCChat | The Moving Goal Posts of Google Ads in 2024 | 2nd April 2024"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"lead\">During this week&#8217;s PPCChat discussion, <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Julie F Bacchini<\/a> led the conversation, covering the latest Google Ads metric definition and recent developments regarding how ad strength influences ad-serving capabilities.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:11px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-q1-have-you-read-the-new-metric-definitions-from-google-ads-what-are-your-thoughts\"><strong>Q1: Have you read the new metric definitions from Google Ads? What are your thoughts?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes, and I feel like there is a lot of overreacting. Ads have always been able to serve below organic and this is just Google documenting it more clearly. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes. Felt like nothing at first but now I am worried there is a huge change just over the horizon. Waiting for the other shoe to drop. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I tweeted about this\u2026This is kinda bewildering. They take the time to send out an email hailing these updated definitions. But then say \u201cnothing has changed\u201d when people ask about it. What is the point? <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Prominence is useful for us to use in helping clients understand the mechanics of the SERP. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It honestly feels like they are trying to realign it with the reality that is SERP is a personalized experience. SERP is no longer the static layout we all grew up with. An engineer wrote it so it sounds way confusing to the average person. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/duanebrown\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@duanebrown<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>To <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a> point, ads have always been able to show below organic and used to even show at the bottom of page 1. Now that there is no bottom of page 1, it makes sense to clarify. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I don&#8217;t feel like it&#8217;s that big of a change&#8230; but agree with&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a> &nbsp;that it feels like waiting for the other shoe to drop. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Prominence still doesn&#8217;t yet make sense to me. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/TheMarketingAnu\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@TheMarketingAnu<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I asked the AI bot in G Ads documentation to explain prominence yesterday\u2026<a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/NeptuneMoon\/status\/1774838797135683803?s=20\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/x.com\/NeptuneMoon\/status\/1774838797135683803?s=20<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I think it&#8217;s just bringing the advice in line with reality. but of course, Google news right before GML is can sometimes suggest things to come. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/TheMarketingAnu\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@TheMarketingAnu<\/a> total guess on my part, but I think it&#8217;s a way of admitting that &#8216;top of page&#8217; can&#8217;t make sense in a personalized\/privacy first environment. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/TheMarketingAnu\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@TheMarketingAnu<\/a> it&#8217;s an estimate of visibility. Given that not everyone will opt into tracking, it&#8217;s the best guess to align if you&#8217;re meeting awareness click-to-conversion ratios. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I can think of some other terms that need updated since don&#8217;t reflect reality&#8230;cough&#8230;exact match&#8230;cough. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/robert_brady\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@robert_brady<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I also think the modifying of \u201ctop of page\u201d and \u201cabsolute top of page\u201d is to allow room for ads to be put in all kinds of layouts. We haven\u2019t even scratched the surface of what they want to do with SGE and AI in search results. This gives lots of leeway. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a> &nbsp;but what was wrong with the other estimates of visibility?? is it one more to add. It sounds like how they thought BMM was a good idea at some point. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/TheMarketingAnu\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@TheMarketingAnu<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Honestly, I am thrilled about all these improvements &#8211; hopefully, they empower folks to use the organic reports as well. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Google is owning they can&#8217;t give you concrete numbers any more <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;ve moved away from Top vs Other positioning in Google Ads in recent years.&nbsp; Our conversations all revolve around Impression Share. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Realicity\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Realicity<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I think it will be interesting relative to bidding on impression share. These placements are now squishier in what they actually were when a searcher saw them. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I asked the Ads Liason account twice but&nbsp;couldn\u2019t&nbsp;make sense of what they replied. Then I just gave up. Waiting for an article or YT video to fully make sense of it. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/jawad-zaheer-khan\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JawadZaheerKhan<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I am looking forward to watching the Marketing O\u2019Clock podcast this week cause I know this will be covered and I will be laughing. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/jawad-zaheer-khan\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JawadZaheerKhan<\/a> Please do let me know what other questions you have on this. Happy to help clarify further. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/adsliaison\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adsliaison<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Realicity\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Realicity<\/a> Yeah &#8211; I think while position is the #1.5 factor in CTR, it&#8217;s way past the time that we&#8217;re all bidding to position 1. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ferkungamaboobo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@ferkungamaboobo<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>curious who\/how many people are position bidding still? <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/adam-gorecki\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adamGorecki<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But how are you supposed to tell your clients that Google can&#8217;t give them concrete numbers? <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There could be new ad types coming too with SGE and such. I\u2019m already not clear how\/where LSAs fit into these definitions. As I said, I think the updates give Google more room to put things different places and change what the top ad is based on the makeup of the SERP shown. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Agree with&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Realicity\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Realicity<\/a>&nbsp;&#8211; we usually focus on imp share. Only in rare cases do we worry about position bidding.<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ferkungamaboobo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@ferkungamaboobo<\/a> 100%.&nbsp; Top vs Other is still relevant to us for understanding CTR and Click Performance, but not as much for other conversations and decisions. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Realicity\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Realicity<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I gave up on position bidding when Google Ads got rid of showing avg. position. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/adsliaison\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adsliaison<\/a> I couldn\u2019t make sense of why Top ads can now appear below organic then what exactly is \u201cTop\u201d about them. And I couldn\u2019t make sense of your reply in this regard. But later I found out &amp; correct me if I am wrong, that it means Top Ads can appear below Organic but they will still be Top Ads because no other ads would appear on the SERP above them? <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/jawad-zaheer-khan\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JawadZaheerKhan<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a> This is the tough one. Google has billed itself as the data people for so long! Luckily, many of us have already built relationships with our clients based on our understanding of their needs and Google&#8217;s capabilities. So hopefully they&#8217;re open to it. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes, that\u2019s correct&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/jawad-zaheer-khan\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JawadZaheerKhan<\/a> Top Ads are still the top most ads in the results. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/adsliaison\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adsliaison<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Can someone give me a use case or example of a conversation with these metrics (or the former)? I feel that Google should spend more time fixing GA4 instead of changing the semantics of definitions. P.S. aren&#8217;t the new definitions closer to what they were a decade ago? anyone remember? <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/adam-gorecki\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adamGorecki<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I kind of would like us to talk a bit about budgets and what budgets we need to make Google (and other networks) work. This is the &#8220;moving goalpost&#8221; I&#8217;m most bothered by. Namely, it seems more budget is needed everywhere. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Everything digital advertising needs more budget. It\u2019s a mature advertising ecosystem. No more bargains to be had at this juncture. At least not on well-established platforms. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a> A truer statement has never been made! <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Realicity\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Realicity<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a>  We&#8217;ve luckily still been able to find success without increasing budgets &#8211; but the platforms are going to keep pushing for more to make more money. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of us were brought up in the &#8220;more data [interpreted as more metrics in practice] is better&#8221; world, or one highly influenced by it. I&#8217;ve done this rant before, so I&#8217;ll not do it again in full, but I think the key part of the post-big-data world is that the metrics we used were not the right ones. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ferkungamaboobo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@ferkungamaboobo<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Q2: Do you think these changes in definitions are paving the way for anything in particular or is this just Google being Google?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>I certainly do think so, but for ONCE I don&#8217;t actually have a guess as to what it is. Maybe no more match types? everything is broad and generative\/conversational search means all placements are meaningless? <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I think it&#8217;s helping brands get used to estimates vs exact numbers. Also organic won&#8217;t always be below paid. \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There&#8217;s fewer positions in CTV or AR\/VR. That seems like the next frontier. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/adam-gorecki\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adamGorecki<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I definitely think it&#8217;s to make room for SGE changes in the SERP. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As to anything else, who knows <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I agree with <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a> about leaning in to modeled data for everything. Google (and other platforms too) are losing data so even where your ad showed is going to have to be more estimated than reported. And by reported I mean what we have traditionally been used to where traffic and positions, etc. were fully visible and data was all available for viewing. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>They want more room to test stuff and the old definitions were limiting them. That&#8217;s how it feels to me. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/robert_brady\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@robert_brady<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It reads to me, and I&#8217;ve been accused of being too short-sighted and buying into PR, just as a clarification. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ferkungamaboobo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@ferkungamaboobo<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Breaking: Google removes all campaign types besides PMax. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/adam-gorecki\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adamGorecki<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Digital marketers in general like to read tea leaves. Sometimes your teabag just had a hole in it. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ferkungamaboobo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@ferkungamaboobo<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I also hope that folks don&#8217;t neglect shifting metrics on other platforms. Google had news, but so did Meta (inflated numbers) and Microsoft (doing away with manual CPC) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;Just trust us&#8221; they say(Why am I so cynical today?) <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/adam-gorecki\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adamGorecki<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It&#8217;s popular to be cynical XD. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;m cynical every day. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Some of it is logical&#8230; IE the first page is gone from SERP. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/natelouis\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NateLouis<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a> Yeah! This is where I think we should be looking with metrics: Facebook&#8217;s been AWFUL about going &#8220;oopsie whoopsie our metrics had an error in measurement, sorry about that data from the past 3 years!&#8221; <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ferkungamaboobo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@ferkungamaboobo<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>cynical is the new black. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Realicity\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Realicity<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I also think if you read the GML preview from the new head of Google Ads, it is clear that AI is not slowing down and a push in the coming year will be to tell Google a few things and let Google Ads do the rest.I will find the link and share it. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ferkungamaboobo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@ferkungamaboobo<\/a> I&#8217;m absolutely furious about that &#8211; lying in data to get more revenue is disgusting and borderline criminal. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a> There is a class action lawsuit over the Meta lying about reach. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;m aware &#8211; what boggles my mind is how advertisers still use Meta when there are so many other social channels. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I feel we are being torn in two:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Privacy regulations = less data<\/li><li>AI proliferation &amp; ubiquity need more data<\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>I haven&#8217;t quite figured out how the future will look with these two behemoths duking it out, but I&#8217;ll let you know when I do. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/adam-gorecki\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adamGorecki<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The timing of AI absolutely stubbed its toe on people waking up to privacy rights. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/adam-gorecki\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adamGorecki<\/a> welcome to public sector digital comms. It&#8217;s great to have you here! <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So going back to the original question: Google is being Google but in the new era way. They&#8217;re giving us the heads-up to start working on our reporting conversations. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So my intern sent me an internet, and now, can you eliminate finsta? <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This is what I think, a bit late to the party today\u2026.<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/alimehdimukadam\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@alimehdimukadam<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/@alimehdimukadam-post.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/@alimehdimukadam-post.png\" alt=\"Ali Mehdi Mukadam tweets about Google search results\" class=\"wp-image-23790\" width=\"368\" height=\"377\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/@alimehdimukadam-post.png 735w, https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/@alimehdimukadam-post-293x300.png 293w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 368px) 100vw, 368px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Q3: Now that you have seen the warning that seems to say that ad strength might impact your ads ability to serve, and Ginny\u2019s response saying nothing has actually changed, what are your thoughts or concerns on this front?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>This question is based on <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/N8Louis\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@N8Louis<\/a>&#8216;s tweet:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/Tweet-about-ad-strength.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/Tweet-about-ad-strength.png\" alt=\"Nate Louise's tweet about search campaign ad strength\" class=\"wp-image-23792\" width=\"440\" height=\"185\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/Tweet-about-ad-strength.png 879w, https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/Tweet-about-ad-strength-300x126.png 300w, https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/Tweet-about-ad-strength-768x322.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 440px) 100vw, 440px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/adsliaison\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adsliaison<\/a> gave a very in-depth response:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/Ginny-Marvins-reply-to-Nate-Louise-about-ad-strength.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/Ginny-Marvins-reply-to-Nate-Louise-about-ad-strength.png\" alt=\"Ginny Marvin's reply to Nate Louise about ad strength\" class=\"wp-image-23794\" width=\"347\" height=\"374\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/Ginny-Marvins-reply-to-Nate-Louise-about-ad-strength.png 694w, https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/Ginny-Marvins-reply-to-Nate-Louise-about-ad-strength-279x300.png 279w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 347px) 100vw, 347px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>This gives me cold sweats. Do you know how much Gov likes to pin assets? and how low the volume is on some of their searches? this is going to be a mess for the public sector, and probably B2B as well. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;ve been ignoring it &#8211; I see more warnings but stuff is still generally serving &#8211; and I look at it as a quality score issue when they aren&#8217;t. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As discussed in the previous thread, Google will be generating all the content in the near future so this won&#8217;t matter. It&#8217;s just a way to incentivize the use of Google&#8217;s automation products (or rather disincentivize not using them) <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/adam-gorecki\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adamGorecki<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;m not really thinking anything has changed.\u00a0 If your ad is not, or less, relevant to queries, other ads do, and should, get the impression. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Realicity\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Realicity<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I find my learning phase getting longer and longer for gov. not all the way not serving&#8230;yet. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I find this very concerning on two fronts. One, less experienced people will see this and read it that they must do what Google Ads says to get their ad strength up or their ads will not run. If that is not actually true, then this reads very wrong and super easy to take that from the language and where it occurs (Nate saw in set up process). Two, it feels shadier after the whole \u201cshake the cushions\u201d testimony. Even if it actually isn\u2019t, the perception that Google would throw its weight around to make people do things a certain way that may not benefit the advertiser, is not a good look, IMO. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a> Keep pinning where you need to! That was part of my clarification. Ad Strength is NOT used in the auction. It&#8217;s a diagnostic tool to understand the diversity and relevancy of your assets. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/adsliaison\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adsliaison<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I have several thoughts: <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Google needs to own that everyone is inclined to believe the worst, so when they make a design change, they need to put a disclaimer that nothing is actually changing.<\/li><li>Ad Strength is a health indicator. Should you worship it? No. Should you pay attention to it (and any shifts in impressions)? Yes.<\/li><li>If Ad Strength becomes a weighted metric in ranking, I think 90% of us would be fine. The outliers would be folks who outright ignore what Google has said we should do in ad copy theory, as well as folks who are lazy copywriters. <\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Realicity\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Realicity<\/a> the spirit of your comment is right, but I have real concerns about how Google interprets relevance. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s advanced enough to acurately determine relevance yet. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Google still does not understand B2B queries. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/adsliaison\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adsliaison<\/a> It would be helpful to remove what Louis saw then, which reads like a big old warning, if ad strength truly does not matter. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/adam-gorecki\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adamGorecki<\/a> But the problem is that the AI still doesn&#8217;t understand many queries and websites. (and agree that B2B suffers a lot in this) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So ad strength is like\u00a0Quality Score\u00a0then. Both just diagnostic tool in the end. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/duanebrown\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@duanebrown<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>One thing bothering me lately with all these changes are the clients who kinda know Google Ads &#8211; i.e. they can log in to the console and read. And they start panicking with these messages along with limited by budget, below first-page bid, etc nothing changes overall, just increases our explanations to these questions. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/alimehdimukadam\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@alimehdimukadam<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ad Strength seems dumb to me because it wants you to add MORE assets, but unless you have huge budgets, not all the assets get enough data to reach significance in a reasonable time period and at that point, Google is just guessing. IMHO, the strength of the ad should be measured by how well your ad assets are being analyzed by Google AI, not how may assets you&#8217;ve given AI to test. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/adam-gorecki\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adamGorecki<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a> Yes, feedback has been shared with the team. And just to reiterate, this is a UI experiment for Diagnostics Insights. Nothing has changed with Ad Strength. It&#8217;s a diagnostic tool and not used in the auction. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/adsliaison\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adsliaison<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a> &amp; <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/duanebrown\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@duanebrown<\/a> So the Diagnostic Tools Google Provides are not always the tools you need&#8230; ? <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Realicity\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Realicity<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Realicity\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Realicity<\/a> yes, I&#8217;d say so. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/adsliaison\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adsliaison<\/a> hence my point that it would be cool if Google could anticipate the panic XD. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a> That&#8217;s how I look at these tools anyway. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Realicity\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Realicity<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It can be one tool you use but that doesn\u2019t mean you don\u2019t have other tools. I never look at Quality Score anymore\u2026but that is just our agency POV on it. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/duanebrown\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@duanebrown<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For what it is worth, I also think a better communication path isn\u2019t necessarily \u201cnothing is changing\u201d because it is, even if that change is nuanced. A better messaging strategy would be \u201cGoogle Ads is evolving to better meet searchers needs and effectively leverage emerging AI capabilities. We are excited about the possibilities for both advertisers and searchers to find each other more easily.\u201dAnd explain the shifts in definitions, etc. through this type of lens. It would go over better. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When discussing ad creation with a standards board, we of course talk about various tools used. But Google&#8217;s tools tend to break through in terms of what is needed and how things are measured. as usual, it comes back to a comms problem. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a> &amp; <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/duanebrown\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@duanebrown<\/a> \u00a0my comment was rather rhetorical.\u00a0 We&#8217;ve been around long enough to understand that a raw data point doesn&#8217;t tell the full tale. Tho, newer people may misconstrue QS and Ad Strength for something other than they really are. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Realicity\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Realicity<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I feel like there was a recent change that made it harder to get new search campaigns launched. It&#8217;s almost as if you have to bid on broader terms to start to get some historical data. After you get some traction, Google will allow you to widdle down the keywords. Right now, the campaign I mentioned feels like it is stuck. It has &#8220;-&#8221; for a quality score on all keywords. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/N8Louis\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@N8Louis<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>plus, all of the other stuff I had mentioned <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/N8Louis\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@N8Louis<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/N8Louis\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@N8Louis<\/a> All the terms start with that &#8211; for quality score. That has been that way for a while. Ages ago everything started with a QS of 6 and moved up or down from there. At some point quite a number of years ago now, G changed that to start with the &#8211; and then fill in a number when it had enough data. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Q4: How\/do you think goalposts are being moved relative to Google Ads right now in your opinion and experience? And what, if anything, would you love to see changed on that front?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Not being able to sort active items in GMC when you have an Advanced Acccount and are looking at dozens and dozens of sub-accounts makes no sense. You can sort by pending, expired and disapproved SKUs but not active. Make it make sense. Not our topic today but I wish little things got fixed. That would go a long way. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/duanebrown\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@duanebrown<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We live in a paradoxically frustrating time of needing more data but also not having data due to privacy. My biggest concern is that niche B2B and SMB will get left behind. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I do think B2B and small businesses are being left behind. Nearly all of the changes in how G Ads works or the paths it really wants advertisers on just are not as easily or efficiently used for businesses with low conversion volume.Couple that with the across the platforms data loss and the news is not great for smaller businesses and lots of B2B businesses. I hope more is coming for them that we just don\u2019t know about yet. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pardon the rashness, but the only Goal Posts that Google cares about now is this:<br><a href=\"https:\/\/abc.xyz\/investor\/earnings\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/abc.xyz\/investor\/earnings\/<\/a>They are caught in the Privacy\/AI struggle which is why most of the changes are ethereal instead of tangible because I don&#8217;t think Google knows how it&#8217;s all going to shake out (which is fair). <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/adam-gorecki\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adamGorecki<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a> said. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/robert_brady\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@robert_brady<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In terms of how to fix it &#8211; sources of truth need to be protected. We all need to be comfortable sharing conversion data with our marketing channels, or we need to be comfortable with our campaigns suffering from lack of data. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;Trust the AI&#8221; doesn&#8217;t work for companies when the AI isn&#8217;t accurate for their industries and\/or they don&#8217;t have the budget or patience to make it through the grueling learning period without results. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a> I\u2019d add we need to get our clients and stakeholders comfortable with lack of hard data. We have sold the core of PPC as \u201cwe have the data\u201d since it began. That is a lot to unravel and reroute! <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Google can&#8217;t force companies to depend on the AI when the AI is not compliant or dependable. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a> And there also needs to be an alternative narrative put forward &#8211; what happens instead? Why advertise on Google when Google&#8217;s core was transparency and now that&#8217;s gone? <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hey all, let&#8217;s just be happy that Google is making updates. Facebook doesn&#8217;t do anything to their platform. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/adam-gorecki\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adamGorecki<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I am concerned about how it affects the SMB\u2019s. Maps is being monetized a lot more as Google experiments with Search. For some accounts, auto-linking of their business profiles and conversion\u00a0config of local actions, etc was startling. For eg. saw an e-commerce store\u2019s business profile linked and conversions started as directions, calls, along with purchase. Need to be more vigilant for small accounts. And it doesn\u2019t help when they constantly get emails from Google Experts to turn on auto-apply for a $1000-2000 budget account. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/alimehdimukadam\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@alimehdimukadam<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/adam-gorecki\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adamGorecki<\/a> there is that! at least Google is trying to talk to us! <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Look, ultimately, I&#8217;m not afraid of AI, I&#8217;m just afraid of they AI I&#8217;m forced\/expected to use wasn&#8217;t trained on the same goals that I have. No, I don&#8217;t want to &#8220;upgrade&#8221; to broad match when I only have &lt;10% impression share on my exact match keywords. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/adam-gorecki\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adamGorecki<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/adam-gorecki\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adamGorecki<\/a> &amp; <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a> FB Ads seems like it a middle-aged divorced guy who&#8217;s just given up and is sitting on the porch complaining about taxes and fake news. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Realicity\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Realicity<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I worry that Google is taking into account for niche-based businesses. IE a countertop fabricator is not the same as a countertop installer. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/N8Louis\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@N8Louis<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>IMO, these sort of documents are helpful. <a href=\"https:\/\/support.google.com\/google-ads\/answer\/14752782\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/support.google.com\/google-ads\/answer\/14752782<\/a> but really basic and admittedly, I think most of use have been doing these things for years already. What I&#8217;d like to see from Google is better explanations of HOW the AI systems work (not just WHAT they do), and less blackboxing. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/adam-gorecki\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adamGorecki<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Garbage disposal company is not a plumber or a dumpster rental company. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/N8Louis\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@N8Louis<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/N8Louis\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@N8Louis<\/a> Google Ads struggles with knowing those types of differences. And I think it is going to have to get better on that front because businesses who care about their spend will not want to spend on things that are clearly irrelevant for their businesses. That also hinges on advertisers still being able to see that kind of data though. If Performance Max becomes the only campaign type and\/or regular campaigns show data like PMax does (in aggregate, themes, insights, etc.) then none of us will ever know if the AI gets any better understanding these differences. And that is troubling for a lot of advertisers. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I will add that part of Google Ads\u2019 fundamental problem, from an advertiser and PPC pro perspective, is that the audience of advertisers that they talk to are not representative of most advertisers. In other words, large brands that have dedicated teams at G Ads that work with them do not have the same concerns or even experience with Google Ads that advertisers anywhere below that tier do. And, Google is a publicly traded company, so their first, second and third priorities are to keep their stock price stable and show growth quarter after quarter after quarter. What they need to do to do that is not always what average advertisers want or need. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Closing thoughts: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/adam-gorecki\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@adamGorecki<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Privacy regulations are affecting AI and even Google doesn&#8217;t know where it lands<\/li><li>Google Ads is being\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/doctorow.medium.com\/my-mcluhan-lecture-on-enshittification-ea343342b9bc\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">enshittified<\/a>\u00a0despite\/because of record profits<\/li><li>Google understands\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=R9OHn5ZF4Uo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">HOW AI works<\/a>, but not WHY it works<\/li><li>They&#8217;re getting rid of exact match, I can just feel it<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PPCChat Participants<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Navah Hopkins <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/navahf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahf<\/a><\/li><li>Melissa Mackey <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a><\/li><li>Julie F Bacchini\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/li><li>Duane Brown <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/duanebrown\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@duanebrown<\/a><\/li><li>Reva Minkoff\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a><\/li><li>Anu Adegbola aka PPC Live founder\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/TheMarketingAnu\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer 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