{"id":27639,"date":"2026-04-23T01:23:00","date_gmt":"2026-04-22T19:53:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/?p=27639"},"modified":"2026-04-23T01:23:03","modified_gmt":"2026-04-22T19:53:03","slug":"ppcchat-old-school-vs-new-school-ppc-21st-april-2026","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/ppcchat-old-school-vs-new-school-ppc-21st-april-2026\/","title":{"rendered":"PPCChat | Old School vs. New School PPC | 21st April 2026"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"lead\">This week&#8217;s PPCChat discussion was a lively one. Host <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Julie F. Bacchini<\/a> sought PPCers&#8217; views on an old-school PPC practice and strategy, what a new-school PPC practice or strategy marketers swear by and what experts&#8217; hottest \u201cold school\u201d vs. \u201cnew school\u201d PPC take?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-q1-do-you-consider-yourself-old-school-new-school-or-some-combination-of-both-when-it-comes-to-ppc-and-why-and-how-long-have-you-been-working-in-ppc\"><strong>Q1: Do you consider yourself old school, new school or some combination of both when it comes to PPC and why? And how long have you been working in PPC?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>I am probably more old school than new school, as I have been working in PPC since it literally began (and in marketing since before the internet!) That being said though, I am not stuck in my ways and do dig into all the new things and new thinking about PPC and evaluate and test new things all the time. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Probably old school, but always learning, always trying something new. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pretty New School, I would say. I started 4 years ago, but have seen a lot of change in a short amount of time! <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/grant-douglas-61623b113\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@grantdouglas<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Old school. Been working in PPC since Overture was around. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/jeffreyhain\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JeffreyHain<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I find myself saying &#8216;back in the old interface&#8217; a LOT <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/jeffreyhain\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JeffreyHain<\/a> let\u2019s not forget Looksmart! <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mix of both here, although I suppose it depends on how we are defining these.&nbsp; 18+ years in PPC for me. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/KurtHenninger\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@KurtHenninger<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>8yrs now, so mostly new, but still old enough to call it AdWords every now and then just for fun. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/sappingtonryan\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Ryansappington<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We should do a PPC nostalgia chat one of these weeks too\u2026 <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>15+ years\u2026 Im Old School! <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/liork\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Liorkrolewicz<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I got my start in the old school (2002), but I do test things all the time. I would say &#8220;cautiously adapting.&#8221; Much of my reluctance comes from the fact that Google and Bing are not designed for B2B more so than &#8220;this is new so it automatically sucks&#8221; <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Love having so many 10+ years people here! <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;ve been in the game for 10 years, so I guess old school by default. That said, it&#8217;s a game of adapt or die, so we all have to adapt new school ways\u2026eventually. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/teabeeshell\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@teabeeshell<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Can&#8217;t we be both? <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/navahhopkins\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahhopkins<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sometimes some old school pushback is good though. Without it, PMax would still be a very black box! <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/navahhopkins\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahhopkins<\/a> Yes you can absolutely be both! <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/navahhopkins\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahhopkins<\/a> ! old school = fundamentals. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/liork\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Liorkrolewicz<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/navahhopkins\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahhopkins<\/a> that&#8217;s what I was trying to say in my answer haha <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>14 years old school when it comes to basics\/fundamentals &#8211; what is marketing type questions. New in terms of tools, tactics, testing <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/alimehdimukadam\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@alimehdimukadam<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I am with <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a> on this. I have been using Google Ads\/Adwords since 2002. So long that I can pretty much say to the tech support people from Google, &#8220;I have been using Google Ads longer than you&#8217;ve been alive&#8221; LOL. I am solidly mostly old school, but willing and trying to learn new things. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/eroncohen\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@EronCohen<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I am a hybrid of both. Can&#8217;t be completely old school due to playing the Google Ads testing game. As much as I don&#8217;t want to give Google more control, testing is still good. Plus a lot of old practices are obsolete now. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/amberdeedler\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@AmberDeedler<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It&#8217;s been 19 years, so I suppose that makes me old school. But I&#8217;m still doing new school stuff too. A lot of the old school things continue to work and make more sense. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a> &#8230; and what about Ask Jeeves!!! <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/jeffreyhain\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JeffreyHain<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/jeffreyhain\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JeffreyHain<\/a> A shame and missed opportunity for Anthropic not naming Claude, Jeeves <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/sappingtonryan\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Ryansappington<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I got started 11 years ago &amp; I still consider myself \u201cnew school\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/diipooler\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@DiiPooler<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-q2-what-is-an-old-school-ppc-practice-strategy-or-tactic-that-you-still-swear-by\"><strong>Q2: What is an \u201cold school\u201d PPC practice, strategy or tactic that you still swear by?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>I still think landing pages really matter for that through line from idea to query to click to landing page. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Aggressively and actively control search terms management. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/liork\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Liorkrolewicz<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Use of negative search terms. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>was just going to say aggressive SQR review and adding negatives. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Keywords still matter. They may not function on the front end the same way the ever have, but negative KWs are powerful when you take cues from the SQR. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/teabeeshell\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@teabeeshell<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And we don&#8217;t use a lot of Pmax or AI Max. still pretty much standard search campaigns. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I also think ad copy matters and that humans can be better at putting the pieces together than a machine. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;d still use ETAs if I could. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ad copy and message testing. I will die on this hill, probably because I came to search from a writing background. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Search Terms\u2026..and more general direct marketing practices like personas, pain points mapping, USPs, etc. Also..never ever run Display in the same campaign as Search Campaigns\u2026I will die on that hill. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/KurtHenninger\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@KurtHenninger<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Oh, audience data for sure! know who is asking the question you&#8217;re answering. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Another one is to fully build out ads. You have X headlines, X long headlines, X descriptions, X videos, whatever &#8211; use them all. It drives me crazy when I see Ads\/Asset Groups with &lt; half of assets utilized. I know this &#8220;impedes&#8221; copy testing, but Google does that anyway. You may forfeit A\/B message testing, but you also produce weaker ads with less standing in a given auction. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/teabeeshell\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@teabeeshell<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Have solid foundations &#8211; stick to the basics, have some sort of naming structure for what you are doing. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/alimehdimukadam\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@alimehdimukadam<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bid to budget ratios (clicks shouldn&#8217;t cost more than 10% of daily budget because that&#8217;s asking for a better than 10% conversion rate) <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/navahhopkins\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahhopkins<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/alimehdimukadam\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@alimehdimukadam<\/a> Naming conventions &#8211; you are speaking my language. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/teabeeshell\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@teabeeshell<\/a> I attended Brad Geddes &amp; Jyll Saskin Gales training last week\u2026 was interesting to hear their take a bit against that\u2026 though I always do\/did?!? <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/liork\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Liorkrolewicz<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Agree with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/alimehdimukadam\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@alimehdimukadam<\/a> .. a universal campaign naming structure is key to analyzing and optimizing \u2026 finding what&#8217;s not working and fixing it. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/jeffreyhain\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JeffreyHain<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Negative search terms, Campaign Group budgets with bid modifiers. Unfortunately, this can&#8217;t be done with Pmax campaigns. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/amberdeedler\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@AmberDeedler<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/alimehdimukadam\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@alimehdimukadam<\/a> yes, account structure is for HUMANS to manage. It also helps when you are adding search terms, you can quickly know where to put the kw in exact. Should be intuitive. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/liork\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Liorkrolewicz<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And a good account structure helps you better place negative KWs. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/jeffreyhain\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JeffreyHain<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/liork\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Liorkrolewicz<\/a> &#8211; I think there are certainly cases to be made for (plus some rebuttals):<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>We only have 2 videos produced (but you can make cutdowns&#8230;)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>There are only X ways to say Y message (but good writers can&#8230;)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>We only want these select assets in rotation together (but Google can\/often will make assets for you if you don&#8217;t produce them&#8230;)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;d be curious for some of the cliff notes from that training if you&#8217;re willing to share\/DM! <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/teabeeshell\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@teabeeshell<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Proactive negative keywords are still really important. Also, search still works. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a> I&#8217;m shocked that prioritizing landing page relevancy is considered an \u201cold school\u201d ppc tactic lol. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/diipooler\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@DiiPooler<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ahhh! Gotcha, that makes sense <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/diipooler\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@DiiPooler<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I feel like lately it&#8217;s \u201clet the platform pick\u201d the landing page or use more general ones. So having them more designed to be specifically relevant feels older school\u2026<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-q3-what-is-an-old-school-ppc-practice-strategy-or-tactic-that-you-wish-you-would-never-hear-about-or-be-asked-about-again\"><strong>Q3: What is an \u201cold school\u201d PPC practice, strategy or tactic that you wish you would never hear about or be asked about again?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>SKAGs. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Obviously SKAGs (single keyword ad groups) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Beat me to it.&nbsp; SKAGs\u2026bleh <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/KurtHenninger\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@KurtHenninger<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>SKAG (still worth noting for the 4th time!) <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/liork\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Liorkrolewicz<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And most of the time, manual bidding. It works in select cases but is unnecessary 99% of the time. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>SKAG it up! <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/amberdeedler\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@AmberDeedler<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I am honestly surprised manual bidding still exists. Its days must be numbered? <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I miss manual bidding when it was easier to control. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/amberdeedler\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@AmberDeedler<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>SKAGs <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/alimehdimukadam\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@alimehdimukadam<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Remember separate bids for search vs search partners? <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Well, that&#8217;s a quorum. resolved: SKAGs are to be banished from our town! <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;m so torn on manual bidding\u2026.still have tiffs with automated, but the training last week may have pushed me over the edge. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/liork\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Liorkrolewicz<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Remember when you could see competitors\u2019 bids and bid like you were on The Price Is Right???? <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yeah\u2026.manual bidding.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t miss that.&nbsp; Bid buckets anyone? <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/KurtHenninger\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@KurtHenninger<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>No, I don&#8217;t actually! Remember Adwords Express campaigns? <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/amberdeedler\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@AmberDeedler<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/amberdeedler\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@AmberDeedler<\/a> they renamed them &#8220;smart&#8221; campaigns lol <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I think any strategy that pulls you away from the core objective is a way to waste money. The biggest one I hear is Target IS bidding. Sure, it&#8217;s a clear &#8220;signal&#8221; but it doesn&#8217;t ladder up to business success. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/teabeeshell\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@teabeeshell<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I have a natural reflex against anything Google calls \u201csmart\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hahaha yep. Sneaky. Sneaky.<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/amberdeedler\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@AmberDeedler<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A new way for Google to make more money = &#8220;Smart&#8221; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/liork\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Liorkrolewicz<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a> or &#8220;enhanced&#8221; <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Well, every time they sunset something we are told it is an upgrade too\u2026<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a> Why does that give me a nervous twitch when I think of that? <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/KurtHenninger\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@KurtHenninger<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Someone should write a book called &#8220;Gaslit by Google&#8221; <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Enhanced was my favorite. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/alimehdimukadam\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@alimehdimukadam<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Omg smart campaigns\u2026 I forgot about those\u2026 never again. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I need somewhere to talk about the rug-pull that was custom intent audiences, they were great!<br>I&#8217;d take converting keywords and meet the demand outside of search! then pmax came and google turned a blind eye to the content network and those audiences were thrown to the wolves. bogus leads followed by phantom leads created audience waste lands. Is it better to have custom intent audiences and lose them, or to never have them at all? <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/ckostecki\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Chriskostecki<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a> we had a client who was running those recently. Needless to say we shut them off post haste. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a> I know of someone that is still trying to build them to stack the map results for different home services in large markets. nor a recommended practice, but he swears by it. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/ckostecki\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Chriskostecki<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-q4-what-is-a-new-school-ppc-practice-strategy-or-tactic-that-you-swear-by\"><strong>Q4: What is a \u201cnew school\u201d PPC practice, strategy or tactic that you swear by?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Offline conversions. A must-have for B2B paid search <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>First party data in general, whether offline conversions or just customer match.&nbsp; Better signals = better results IMO <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/KurtHenninger\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@KurtHenninger<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>broad match signals <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/ckostecki\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Chriskostecki<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Migrating to the Google Tag, in lieu of hard-coded conversions, Analytics imports, or GTM conversions <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/teabeeshell\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@teabeeshell<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Data &#8211; signals, integration, consolidation. Garbage in \/ Garbage out. Applies more to conversion tracking &amp; biz numbers than prompts. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/alimehdimukadam\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@alimehdimukadam<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Always running on Microsoft Ads when running Google Ads\u2026 kinda old school, then fell off, but Microsoft ads made easier to do in recent years. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/liork\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Liorkrolewicz<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We also love custom segments for video campaigns. And we&#8217;re getting good results with AI Max when used without ad expansion or LP expansion. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/ckostecki\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Chriskostecki<\/a> Say more? <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/teabeeshell\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@teabeeshell<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Moving more and more to video &#8211; while Video Action is now Demand Gen, seeing a lot of good things from video assets and incorporating them more. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Does portfolio bidding count? Because it can be helpful for accounts with low conversion volumes. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a> Definitely\u2026super helpful and we use that all the time. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/KurtHenninger\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@KurtHenninger<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We&#8217;ve seen a lot of good things from Performance Max and Demand Gen &#8211; AI oriented campaigns can do well and do work as long as they have the right tracking and signals coming in to tell the platforms what is good traffic and what isn&#8217;t. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">revaminkoff<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">revaminkoff<\/a> do you offer video editing\/production or something you started with AI? (also Hi!) <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/liork\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Liorkrolewicz<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>+1 for Demand Gen. Give it a more advantageous bid than PMax, opt out of Display, and possibly separate YouTube + Gmail from Discover-only <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/teabeeshell\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@teabeeshell<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/teabeeshell\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@teabeeshell<\/a> 5 years ago I would&#8217;ve been hard pressed to use broad match targeting, now I i leverage a few within my phrase builds, usually my core term for the ad group, and for my most core ad groups, so then it gets in front of more queries. I need to spend some time training it with negatives, but it can make sure my ads continue to be seen by the right searches. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/ckostecki\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Chriskostecki<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/ckostecki\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Chriskostecki<\/a> do you aggressively add the search terms in exact as you learn\/discover?&nbsp; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/liork\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Liorkrolewicz<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Honestly using Google for awareness\/top of funnel is a newer school concept, at least in my mind. Obviously PMax wants the full funnel experience. I am still only lukewarm on PMax for the types of accounts I tend to work on. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/liork\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Liorkrolewicz<\/a>  Hi! We&#8217;ve done less with the direct production, but we have partners we use when we need them. That said, we&#8217;ve found that it&#8217;s less about having a well produced brand video and more about a straightforward influencer video \/ this is what the product does and why I love it, etc. which makes the barrier to entry lower. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/liork\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Liorkrolewicz<\/a> aggressively no, but if the volume is there I will add them in. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/ckostecki\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Chriskostecki<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>IMHO Pmax only works with offline conversions optimizing toward lower-funnel actions like MQLs <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>New customer campaigns are a cool new feature. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-q5-what-is-a-new-school-ppc-practice-strategy-or-tactic-that-nbsp-you-wish-you-would-never-hear-about-or-be-asked-about-again\"><strong>Q5: What is a \u201cnew school\u201d PPC practice, strategy or tactic that&nbsp; you wish you would never hear about or be asked about again?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>AI Max <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>AI <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I wish the technical lift to get things live wasn&#8217;t so high. Not every client has first party data at the ready. Not every client has a dev team who can put in place whatever new container Google is asking for or new pixel from FB etc. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Audience\/Targeting Expansion <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/teabeeshell\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@teabeeshell<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;d have to say AI Max\u2026haven&#8217;t seen it perform well at all. But clients LOVE to ask about it. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/KurtHenninger\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@KurtHenninger<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>My Google reps push it constantly. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/grant-douglas-61623b113\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@grantdouglas<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/KurtHenninger\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@KurtHenninger<\/a> Well it has both \u201cAI\u201d and \u201cMax\u201d in its name, so it has to be good, right <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a> I used that EXACT line as a joke in a client meeting when it was first announced.&nbsp; Haha&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/KurtHenninger\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@KurtHenninger<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;Optimized targeting&#8221; that offers no transparency. It&#8217;s nice AI can do things but please tell us what it did so we can learn from it and build accordingly. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I am bracing myself for all the AI and maxing we are going to hear about at this year\u2019s GML . I am still not recovered from the \u201cPower Pair\u201d honestly\u2026<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>THE POWER PAIR <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/beyondthepaid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@beyondthepaid<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>They made that phrase musical to make it sound better <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/KurtHenninger\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@KurtHenninger<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Things I&#8217;ve managed to conveniently &#8220;forget.&#8221; <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>GML is on May 20th this year <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>AUTO APPLY RECOMMENDATIONS need to go away. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Auto generated optimized assets. Haven&#8217;t seen it work even once on any platform\/account <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/alimehdimukadam\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@alimehdimukadam<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Creating assets to then bill the client for on the hopes they drive some business from it does seem self serving from the outside looking in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/ckostecki\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Chriskostecki<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Well to be fair, platforms like to give themselves credit for knowing what works to get conversions. And I think they do for part of the equation, but not the whole equation. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Like charging 10X CPCs every so often\u2026 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/liork\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Liorkrolewicz<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I am so tired of talking about learning periods for search advertising too <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This discussion is oddly therapeutic lol. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>take it one click at a time\u2026.<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/liork\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Liorkrolewicz<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Showing ads in completely irrelevant geographies because the tightest setting still allows this if Google thinks it\u2019s a good click <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I know I&#8217;m late, but I&#8217;m sick of hearing &#8220;privacy concerns&#8221; as Google&#8217;s excuse for obscuring data transparency. Like, I&#8217;m all for actual privacy protections, but don&#8217;t lie to me that 70% of my search queries contain personally identifiable information or anything else that could violate &#8220;privacy&#8221;. Sure, Googe. Whatever you say..<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/anthony-mcdaniel-jr\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@AnthonyMcDaniel<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-q6-what-is-your-hottest-old-school-vs-new-school-ppc-take\"><strong>Q6: What is your hottest \u201cold school\u201d vs. \u201cnew school\u201d PPC take?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>There&#8217;s still room for both. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Broad Match \/ AI Max &#8220;match&#8221; is not superior to Exact Match, and BMM should be brought back. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/teabeeshell\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@teabeeshell<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Use any\/all\/whatever to get the best results for your clients.&nbsp; What works for one practitioner doesn&#8217;t necessarily work for another. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/KurtHenninger\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@KurtHenninger<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>No matter what is offered, never give up messaging or targeting control while you are paying for traffic. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/ckostecki\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Chriskostecki<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Your landing pages matter more than ever. AI is only going to keep marching further into all pieces of PPC and your landing pages are going to be massive signals and data sources for that. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Fundamentals won&#8217;t change. Tools, tactics, channels will continue to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/alimehdimukadam\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@alimehdimukadam<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Start with the basics when building a campaign (old school). Test and layer in new school opportunities once they prove effective in that specific account. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/jeffreyhain\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JeffreyHain<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The line between PPC and SEO is increasingly moving closer together. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;Automated strategies&#8221; \u2260 &#8220;set it and forget it&#8221; &nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/liork\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Liorkrolewicz<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>While networks push advertisers to the loud middle of the road, the opportunities lie on the quiet outskirts, first party data is the quickest way to cut through the noise. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/ckostecki\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Chriskostecki<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Not sure if this fits here, but does anyone else feel that automated bidding is a slippery slope to not optimizing, as we did with manual bidding? Still trying to reconcile &nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/liork\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Liorkrolewicz<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/liork\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Liorkrolewicz<\/a> I am a bigger fan of automated bidding to drive volume (max clicks &amp; conv) as opposed to driving rates &#8211; rates assumes demand, while volume meets it. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/ckostecki\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Chriskostecki<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Still kills me to see terms convert at $10 &#8211; $20, CPA set to $30, then random 5-10x CPCs to make sure you hit the $30 &#8211; but its &#8220;automated&#8221; *all in same ad group&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/liork\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Liorkrolewicz<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Automated bidding, like most of the machine learning in the platform, will latch on to a type of conversion and ride it hard. Sometimes to the exclusion of other paths it might also explore. I find that part kind of annoying. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Managing the Target CPA as if it were a manual CPC is still important. I.e. you can change it and probably should revisit it and sense check it and adjust accordingly, etc. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes, agreed <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a> but I feel that with automated bidding, its easier to not be on top of it, as we were with manual\u2026 because its &#8220;automated&#8221; and there are always unknowns or anomalies\u2026. like in my example above, I can lower CPA to $20 but I dont know what will happen <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/liork\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Liorkrolewicz<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The same thing happens with assets in RSAs. The system picks a \u201cwinner\u201d SO fast and then that\u2019s that. Again, leaving what are probably some good paths unexplored because it found 1 or 2 that convert. It doesn\u2019t even know if it found the most efficient conversions because it decides so quickly &#8211; it\u2019s this one! <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/NeptuneMoon\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@NeptuneMoon<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/liork\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Liorkrolewicz<\/a> Well also a lot of settings are very well hidden in the current UX. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/revaminkoff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@revaminkoff<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Portfolio CPC caps help <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/liork\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Liorkrolewicz<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Saw this in my mailbox <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/alimehdimukadam\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@alimehdimukadam<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"469\" height=\"772\" 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