{"id":28586,"date":"2026-10-14T11:25:24","date_gmt":"2026-10-14T05:55:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/?p=28586"},"modified":"2026-10-14T11:25:25","modified_gmt":"2026-10-14T05:55:25","slug":"ppcchat-applying-hiring-in-the-current-ppc-job-market","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/ppcchat-applying-hiring-in-the-current-ppc-job-market\/","title":{"rendered":"PPCChat | Applying &#038; Hiring in the Current PPC Job Market | 13th October 2026"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"lead\">This week\u2019s PPCChat, hosted by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/susie-marino129\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Susie Marino<\/a>, explored the PPC job market from both the job seeker\u2019s and employer\u2019s perspectives, amid layoffs and hiring challenges. Topics included the pros and cons of working in-house, at an agency, or as an independent consultant; AI\u2019s role in PPC hiring; and tips for navigating the job market. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-q1-what-would-you-say-are-the-benefits-and-drawbacks-of-doing-in-house-ppc-management-for-a-company-or-working-in-an-agency-environment-versus-running-your-own-consulting-practice\"><strong>Q1: What would you say are the benefits and drawbacks of doing in-house PPC management for a company, or working in an agency environment, versus running your own consulting practice?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>I can definitely say that my preference is to have resources! I do NOT want to run my own business and do all the extra non-specialist work that comes with it. It&#8217;s good to understand to get a sense of your client&#8217;s needs, but my preference is to lead a practice. That puts me in a good spot to focus my energy on behalf of a brand, or many brands. #agencylife. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Being in-house lets you get really in-depth with one business while agency life is fast-paced and you learn very quickly. I left both behind to do my own thing because 1) I wanted to pick who I worked with and 2) I learned that I&#8217;m better at managing accounts than managing people, which was the agency trajectory I was on. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/robert_brady\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@robert_brady<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/robert_brady\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@robert_brady<\/a> listen, that path to leadership = manage people or stay stuck is so real and such nonsense! our whole industry has failed to develop the specialist track. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This is less of an &#8220;agency&#8221; vs &#8220;in-house&#8221; mechanic, but on working for someone else vs yourself: the main benefit to working for yourself is autonomy on who you serve. There&#8217;s no holding your nose and not working on a client if you work for someone else if they already said yes to the money. A big reason I went off on my own for a while is I wanted to have more control on who I served. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/navahhopkins\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahhopkins<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;ve been my own boss for almost my entire career. Last time I had a job the computer on my desk was running Windows 95 so I can&#8217;t really give perspective on being in-house. I did recently turn down an offer from a client to become his head of marketing. The money would have been nice but the restrictions expected from employment just felt too tight. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Pete_Bowen\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Pete_Bowen<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I can definitely see how any of these options have their own pros\/cons. Having your own practice takes the work from not only just consulting but also managing and growing a business. That said, though I look back on my time at an agency fondly, there were definitely clients I would have chosen not to work with had I been on my own lol <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/susie-marino129\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Susie Marino<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a> the computer geek industry came up with the idea of the highly paid IC &#8211; individual contributor for people who didn&#8217;t want to be a manager. Seems like we should copy them. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Pete_Bowen\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Pete_Bowen<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Pete_Bowen\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Pete_Bowen<\/a> I fully agree, and there are firms that have pushed in this direction, but the incentives for so many shops big and small is client client client, finance finance finance. I want to be good at one cool thing, and make all of us good at one cool thing <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I prefer working for an agency for the diverse range of industries and accounts you get to work with. Managing just one account would be boring for me \u2013 and frankly I wouldn&#8217;t know what to do all day (meaning no offense to any in-house people) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/williamhboggs\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@williamhboggs<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I just rejoined an agency after 3.5 years in-house, which followed 8+ years in client-facing roles.<br>In-house roles on smaller teams can definitely make you feel siloed in your role. In my last in-house role, I was running paid campaigns advertising to other marketers, but on my own team I was the only person with in-depth PPC experience. My director knew the basics, but was nowhere near any type of subject matter expert. It also felt like it went from lull periods to <em>all hands on deck <\/em>periods during majors campaign launches. In agency life, it&#8217;s way less predictable and even happy clients can churn, but I value the ability to brainshare with colleagues and clients and expose myself to multiple challenges. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/kytaylor88\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@kytaylor88<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In house was fun, having the time and the access to do &#8220;all the things&#8221; but just like an agency, if you grew it by 50% last year it better not be 30% this year.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/danthies\/\">@DanThies<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It&#8217;s the &#8216;all the things&#8217; that really gets to me. I do NOT want to do effing everything, I want to do my thing really really well and collab with other specialists who do their thing very well. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-q2-if-you-ve-hired-for-ppc-roles-what-types-of-ppc-expertise-have-you-looked-for-or-conversely-if-you-re-on-the-ppc-job-market-what-types-of-roles-are-you-finding-if-you-re-not-going-the-freelance-route\"><strong>Q2: If you&#8217;ve hired for PPC roles, what types of PPC expertise have you looked for? Or, conversely, if you\u2019re on the PPC job market, what types of roles are you finding, if you\u2019re not going the freelance route?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Freelancers, feel free to also share what types of client work you prefer taking on. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/susie-marino129\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/susie-marino129\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Susie Marino<\/a><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I typically hire for curiousity and logic. I worry a bit about people who have learned only one way of doing things, I more want someone who asks a lot of questions, likes to solve cool problems, and is able to speak comfortably about doing the work. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On the get hired side, most of my being hired has been translating google into client needs, and client wants back into platforms. It&#8217;s a living. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yeah agree I think a big thing is being open to the possibility that there a multiple different ways to get the same results in PPC, and none of them might be necessarily right or wrong. I feel the way some agencies run, I think it could be easy to fall into a habit of approaching account management a specific way then find it difficult to change your ways if you were to leave and go somewhere else <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/susie-marino129\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/susie-marino129\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Susie Marino<\/a><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As a freelancer\/consultant, I have found the best fit in companies where their PPC efforts are too large to be just another hat the founder\/CEO\/marketing manager wears, but they aren&#8217;t yet big enough to need a full-time hire. Many don&#8217;t want to work with an agency and prefer me as a &#8220;fractional expert&#8221;. Usually ends up being $10k-$50k\/month in spend and I work directly with the decision maker for marketing. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/robert_brady\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@robert_brady<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/robert_brady\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@robert_brady<\/a> That sounds like my kind of client too. Big enough for meaningful work, small enough that you can get the boss on the phone to whip the sales team into calling leads right away. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Pete_Bowen\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Pete_Bowen<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Pete_Bowen\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Pete_Bowen<\/a> And there are a surprising amount of businesses that fit the description. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/robert_brady\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@robert_brady<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ve got a handful of them as clients. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Pete_Bowen\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Pete_Bowen<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;ve noticed a lot of higher-paying roles want BigQuery, SalesForce, and Server-Side Tracking experience. This can be frustrating as 2 of these really need hands-on experience in a real account to properly understand. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/williamhboggs\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@williamhboggs<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Job descriptions often read like Christmas wish lists and describe someone as imaginary as a unicorn. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/robert_brady\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@robert_brady<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I had to remove almost all work experience from my resume, and now it leads with a page of skills, many duplicated, because if you don&#8217;t match you don&#8217;t match. Only so many ways to say &#8220;able to work with other humans&#8221; but here we are. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/danthies\/\">@DanThies<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a>  100%. Curiosity, critical thinking, a record of cross-vertical PPC experience. It&#8217;s different for different agencies\/sizes but I&#8217;d hesitate to hire someone who has only ever done specific sub-sets of eCom or B2B. I notice one-track thinking which becomes a liability early in once they need to take on something different. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/timmhalloran\">@timmhalloran<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-q3-what-is-a-reasonable-request-during-the-interview-process-for-a-ppc-role-to-test-a-candidate-for-instance-are-there-any-types-of-practice-projects-or-certification-requirements-you-ve-encountered-when-applying-hiring-for-a-ppc-role\"><strong>Q3: What is a reasonable request during the interview process for a PPC role to test a candidate? For instance, are there any types of practice projects or certification requirements you&#8217;ve encountered when applying\/hiring for a PPC role?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>I went through a 6 round interview process with a local group I really wanted to work with. After that never again obvs. I think interviews should be designed around the problem you&#8217;re trying to solve. If I&#8217;m hiring for an auto team, I won&#8217;t emphasize merchant centre skills. If I&#8217;m hiring a general ppc to support several teams, I&#8217;ll emphasize competing deadlines and clear comms. it&#8217;s bespoke. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I mean obviously I think most potential clients or agencies\/companies hiring are going to want to see Google Ads\/Microsoft Ads certs ha but beyond that I do think it&#8217;s reasonable in our line of work to be asked to show your abilities in, like ad copywriting, or something, but I don&#8217;t think any interview assignment (A.K.A. free work..) should be designed to take more than, like, an hour or so <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/susie-marino129\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/susie-marino129\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Susie Marino<\/a><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;ve gotten some lengthy ones admittedly, one was asking me to create from scratch several short-form and long-form content assets based on an hour-long video I had to review, the hiring manager&#8217;s time estimate was 3-4 hours, but you know I spent all day on it basically lol <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/susie-marino129\">@Susie Marino<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I don&#8217;t do hiring any more, but if the candidate is providing something that will be used by the agency, they should be paid for it. Period. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/robert_brady\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@robert_brady<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-q4-how-many-rounds-of-interviews-do-you-think-there-should-be-for-ppc-related-jobs-and-why-again-either-perspective-from-the-applying-or-hiring-side-is-welcome\"><strong>Q4: How many rounds of interviews do you think there should be for PPC-related jobs and why? Again, either perspective from the applying or hiring side is welcome!<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>This is where I think answers might be changing because of AI.. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/susie-marino129\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/susie-marino129\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Susie Marino<\/a><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>uuuuuugh. As a girl trapped in a giant holdco, please please please, no more than 3. A recruit prelim convo, a second with me and the team lead should do it, potentially a third for executive sponsorship if required. that should be IT <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I have done a few automated screens, and I fear they are dehumanizing hahahaha you, like, read a question, look into nothing into the camera, and record yourself with a time limit and no option to re-record your take lol no pressure or anything! But, I will say, when I have done those, my next interview was always directly with the hiring manager, so I think it does help move things along. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/susie-marino129\">@Susie Marino<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;m with <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a> on this one. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/robert_brady\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@robert_brady<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes, more than like 3 slows down the process so much. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/susie-marino129\">@Susie Marino<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And thank heavens I haven&#8217;t had to do anything like these automated screeners you&#8217;re talking about <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/susie-marino129\">@Susie Marino<\/a> Sounds horrible. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/robert_brady\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@robert_brady<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Especially if you&#8217;re coordinating multiple schedules in panel interview environments where folks may be taking time off etc. I think it comes down, you know, understanding at what point in conversations would one know someone has the right PPC chops for the job? <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/susie-marino129\">@Susie Marino<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Oh kill the panel interview forever. those dynamics are so toxic <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I feel like the skills\/aptitude should be the first interview. After that it&#8217;s team\/culture fit. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/robert_brady\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@robert_brady<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I agree, panel interviews are tough, and for PPC roles probably not even always necessary <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/susie-marino129\">@Susie Marino<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;m back on the hiring team at the agency I&#8217;ve rejoined (was on the hiring team during my first time working there, as well). Current process is relatively short: <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/kytaylor88\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@kytaylor88<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Phone screen (30 minute)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Technical round (45-50 minutes)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Culture fit round (45 minutes)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Project\/presentation round (~2 hours of analysis and deck prep is expected, 60 minute presentation and discussion)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>That&#8217;s not too bad Kyle! sounds pretty standard I would say <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/susie-marino129\">@Susie Marino<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/kytaylor88\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@kytaylor88<\/a> What is the primary purpose of the phone screen? <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/robert_brady\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@robert_brady<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Freelancers, feel free to share how many conversations you tend to have before signing on clients, too! <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/susie-marino129\">@Susie Marino<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>That project presentation had better be compensated. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I don&#8217;t do the phone screen, but it&#8217;s the recruiting manager just going over qualifications and salary alignment. The project is not compensated, but it&#8217;s also not based on actual client data so it&#8217;s not something that we could take and then make changes on because that&#8217;s unethical AF <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/kytaylor88\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@kytaylor88<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The culture fit round is a panel interview round, but it&#8217;s definitely the most informal of the rounds and it&#8217;s honestly good to gauge how a person can talk with multiple people in a meeting since the roles are always client-facing <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/kytaylor88\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@kytaylor88<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>that&#8217;s a lot for a hypothetical. what does the team get out of having the presentation done by a potential hire? and is this the right way to get it? <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I did an initial screen with a talent acquisition guy that booked for 45 minutes and really wanted it to take that long, like sorry, but you&#8217;re not the hiring manager where you&#8217;re going to be caring about the deeply technical parts of the role, I&#8217;d rather the very first convo be similar to what you were saying Kyle, just quick alignment on, like, location, schedule, comp, basic knowledge, then pass me off to the actual hiring manager please lol <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/susie-marino129\">@Susie Marino<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Side note: If you do a &#8220;show your skills&#8221; interview, make sure the person proctoring you knows the accounts you&#8217;re demo&#8217;ing. The account manager or PPC specialist. I always made a bad impression because I turned those into an interview on why it was set up the way it was, what they know about the client, wanting to know the high margin product\/services etc. And I believe most of the time they had a script in their head &#8220;Did he check the negative keywords, did he comment on the bidding strategy, etc.&#8221; So I was usually passed over because of the academic structure of those. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/timmhalloran\">@timmhalloran<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We recently hired from these steps:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Indeed application with a few questions to gauge real experience<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Video interview with myself to go a little deeper &amp; understand their thought process (I&#8217;m more interested in hiring critical thinkers, doers, and people who <em>want<\/em> to work in PPC, so I look for these)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Video interview with our CEO.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>We hired the guy and he&#8217;s been great! <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/williamhboggs\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@williamhboggs<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Technical round shows in-platform skills and strategy discussion, the presentation round shows the ability to analyze performance data and provide insights and recommendations <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/kytaylor88\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@kytaylor88<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The other thing I will say is a lot of initial screens now are video on camera, so you have to suit up for the very first convo, which I feel like before covid, they were always over the phone only <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/susie-marino129\">@Susie Marino<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I actually don&#8217;t mind the suit up, if I&#8217;m hiring for a formal client, you need to show up a certain way, even on video. But I do really really REALLY hate wasting my time and theirs. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So many years of working remote and working for smaller tech companies and agencies, I wouldn&#8217;t want to work for a company that expects me to suit-up for an intro call <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/kytaylor88\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@kytaylor88<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-q5-what-role-do-you-feel-ai-has-been-playing-in-the-hiring-of-ppc-roles\"><strong>Q5: What role do you feel AI has been playing in the hiring of PPC roles?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>We started to touch on this in the last question&#8217;s thread, but I&#8217;m curious what people think about AI fielding resumes before they get to a real talent acquisition person, for example. Freelancers, are you using AI to screen clients, or vice versa, are clients using AI to find you? <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/susie-marino129\">@Susie Marino<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I fear that it makes people less likely to hire juniors. And, answering as a freelancer, I have had ChatGPT recommend me which is nice. Don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s also said that I&#8217;m an idiot and never work with him. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Pete_Bowen\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Pete_Bowen<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>AI as resume screener seems like such a bad fit. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/robert_brady\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@robert_brady<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There&#8217;s AI that screens resumes before even sending them to employers. If your resume is formatted in a way that the bot can&#8217;t read, you just get auto-rejected. Hated learning this after I&#8217;d spent hours making a very nicely-designed resume. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/williamhboggs\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@williamhboggs<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>we don&#8217;t use these just yet, but our ats is definitely &#8216;optimized&#8217;. I try to hunt around for people myself and with the team. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Right, and then like what PPC talent keywords is AI prioritizing during scanning then <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/susie-marino129\">@Susie Marino<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;ll be honest, my experience in holdco land is hiring buyers and teaching them rather than existing experts. our salaries aren&#8217;t competitive enough and our recruiters often don&#8217;t know enough about the role to be discerning. hiring sucks in the big 6 right now. or I guess big 5 since the merger <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-q6-what-advice-would-you-have-for-anyone-else-in-the-ppc-job-market-right-now-nbsp\"><strong>Q6: What advice would you have for anyone else in the PPC job market right now?&nbsp;<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>For instance, what types of skills do you think are important to have and showcase when going for PPC work? Regardless of whether you&#8217;re doing that work for a company or in your own practice. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/susie-marino129\">@Susie Marino<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Curiosity is a must-have. A person who asks why things are the way they are. Then critical thinking skills. Accounts are becoming more and more one-of-a-kind, so the ability to know what principles to apply at what time and how to apply them is key. In a word: judgment. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/robert_brady\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@robert_brady<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Show you can understand a client&#8217;s business before you show strength in merchant center optimisation or keyword management. Show you know where a lead goes and why that&#8217;s a good conversion. Show you can make decisions based on outcomes, and put that on your resume or 1page website. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a> The candidates who dive into conversion- and down-funnel questions during the technical round are often the strongest candidates, like 90%+ of the time <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/kytaylor88\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@kytaylor88<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I would almost want to recommend they major in computer science or data engineering, maybe economics versus a standard BBA or Marketing Management degree. Then focus on jobs that let you cross disciplines and get experience in many areas. With the goal of becoming well-rounded, being able to speak brand strategy, data analytics, just as much as PPC or SEO digital-first language. I imagine that&#8217;d set them much better than diving deep into one specialization early. That&#8217;s different advice I would&#8217;ve given someone 10-15 years ago. AI changed the game technical skills imo <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/timmhalloran\">@timmhalloran<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/timmhalloran\">@timmhalloran<\/a> Yeah I totally agree. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/susie-marino129\">@Susie Marino<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-q7-how-would-you-describe-the-state-of-ppc-jobs-right-now-nbsp\"><strong>Q7: How would you describe the state of PPC jobs right now?&nbsp;<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>ROUGH! it is so bad out there right now. fake job postings, interested applicants who ghost, claude effing everything, it&#8217;s a slop trough right now. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yeah my biggest pain point would be the spam\/AI coming at us from all sides right now <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/susie-marino129\">@Susie Marino<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I have a steady stream of inbound leads because I write quite a bit. If feels pretty much the same &#8211; a couple of enquiries a week. I&#8217;ve been passing these onto friends because till recently I haven&#8217;t had the capacity to take on any new clients. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Pete_Bowen\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Pete_Bowen<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Competitive. People are hiring less and allowing AI to take the roles generally reserved for introductory specialists. I&#8217;m seeing it at AIMCLEAR and other agencies I&#8217;ve talked to are saying the same thing <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/timmhalloran\">@timmhalloran<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>My cousin just finished an advanced degree at NYU <em>after <\/em>getting experience at some large corps in between and he&#8217;s been on the job hunt for 4.5 months. Anecdotal yea, but I think it&#8217;s much more difficult than economic data shows right now. PPC or otherwise, people are *staying put. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/timmhalloran\">@timmhalloran<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I feel like I am seeing a lot of roles though, and maybe it&#8217;s because I&#8217;m pretty flexible in what I&#8217;m looking for, but I&#8217;m applying to a lot of solid jobs, but with everyone going on, progressing through interviews has been slow, and you can definitely feel the heat of the competition at that point <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/susie-marino129\">@Susie Marino<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I am noticing a lot of very low salaries even for Senior and Manager positions \u2013 especially for anything remote. I could understand a tad under market for remote work but I&#8217;m seeing most offering 25-40% less. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/williamhboggs\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@williamhboggs<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes and I fear I&#8217;ve seen a lot more RIFs etc., which is about to make the competition even more fierce, and then we have the slow down around holidays too <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/susie-marino129\">@Susie Marino<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/williamhboggs\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@williamhboggs<\/a> yes! and this is difficult because every company&#8217;s marketing titles mean something different, what could be senior at one agency isn&#8217;t at another <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/susie-marino129\">@Susie Marino<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PPCChat Participants<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Julia Vyse <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JuliaVyse\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@JuliaVyse<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Robert Brady <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/robert_brady\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@robert_brady<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Navah Hopkins <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/navahhopkins\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@navahhopkins<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Peter Bowen <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Pete_Bowen\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@Pete_Bowen<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Susie Marino <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/susie-marino129\">@Susie Marino<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Boggs <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/williamhboggs\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@williamhboggs<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Kyle Taylor\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/kytaylor88\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@kytaylor88<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Dan Thies <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/danthies\/\">@DanThies<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Tim Halloran\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/timmhalloran\">@timmhalloran<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p> <strong>Related Links<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/google-ads-negative-keyword-lists-types-strategy-best-practices\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Master Google Ads Negative Keyword Lists: Types, Strategy &amp; Best Practices<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.karooya.com\/blog\/performance-max-optimization-experiment-ab-testing\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Does Your New Creative Actually Win? 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